{"id":88664,"date":"2021-08-20T17:05:29","date_gmt":"2021-08-20T15:05:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.reunion68.se\/?p=88664"},"modified":"2021-08-20T07:41:53","modified_gmt":"2021-08-20T05:41:53","slug":"28-05-64","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.reunion68.se\/?p=88664","title":{"rendered":"The Afghan gov&#8217;t overthrown by Taliban never existed &#8211; ex-soldier"},"content":{"rendered":"<h5 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jpost.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"center alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.reunion68.com\/Biuletyn\/img\/jpost.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"35%\" \/><\/a><span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #000080;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #000080; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jpost.com\/middle-east\/the-afghan-govt-overthrown-by-taliban-never-existed-source-677178\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Afghan gov&#8217;t overthrown by Taliban never existed &#8211; ex-soldier<\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/h5>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>SETH J. FRANTZMAN<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr style=\"height: 15px; background: #d0e6fa; width: 100%;\" \/>\n<h5 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Former US soldier discusses how myths, bad data, desire for promotions, corruption and waste underpinned the Afghan war.<\/strong><\/h5>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/images.jpost.com\/image\/upload\/f_auto,fl_lossy\/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect\/479342\" width=\"100%\" \/><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><em>A US SOLDIER takes cover during a controlled detonation in southern Afghanistan\u2019s Kandahar Province in 2012. \/\u00a0 (photo credit: SHAMIL ZHUMATOV \/ REUTERS)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cThey believed it because they had to; they couldn\u2019t bring themselves to admit that this might not be real, it was just a sham,\u201d said Graham Platner, who served in Iraq and then Afghanistan as a US soldier, and later as a security contractor. \u201cMilitary officers are not trained to admit that maybe we can\u2019t do this.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">In an interview with The Jerusalem Post, Platner reveals the deeply troubling levels of corruption, waste and myths that underpinned the US role in Afghanistan, and explains why the country fell to the Taliban in just a few days.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The Taliban captured their first provincial capital of Zaranj on August 7, and by August 15 they were in Kabul after President Ashraf Ghani had fled the country. US forces had left Bagram Air Base in early July, roughly a month before the Taliban offensive gained momentum and swept over the country.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Platner came to Afghanistan with high hopes in 2010. He\u2019d been in Iraq, and would ultimately serve for eight years with the US Infantry. He came to Afghanistan with the surge of US troops that was supposed to turn around a war that had already dragged on for a decade.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cMy unit was deployed in November 2010 as part of the Obama surge to move troops into the country to conduct counter-insurgency the right way,\u201d he said. \u201cI believed it before I left.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Platner had seen mistakes in Iraq, and believed that Gen. David Petraeus, commander of the International Security Assistance Forces, and Gen. Stanley McChrystal, his predecessor, were saying the right things about Afghanistan.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">McChrystal said \u201cthat we would now drive on the road like we are part of the Afghans, and walk more and get out of our trucks,\u201d remembers Platner. \u201cAnd as an infantry sergeant who believed counter-insurgency could work, I wanted to do this, and I was excited to go and fight in an army that was going to take seriously this strategy that I had fully bought into.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/images.jpost.com\/image\/upload\/f_auto,fl_lossy\/t_JD_ArticleMainImageFaceDetect\/481784\" width=\"100%\" \/><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><em>Graham Platner is seen alongside a member of the Afghan National Police. (credit: Courtesy of Graham Platner)<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Then he saw how things really were. While the generals said the right things and lower-level US officers believed it and tried to get it done, \u201ceveryone in between doesn\u2019t want to do any of this.\u201d He sketches a pattern of officers being asked to quantify their successes through the number of missions and number of engagements carried out meeting Afghans. As officers wanted promotions, they were incentivized to put in big numbers, but not necessarily accomplish anything real on the ground.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cHow do you quantify making Afghans happy?\u201d Platner asks. \u201cIt is immeasurable and you need metrics, like killing this many enemy, and spending this much money, and this many combat patrols. It doesn\u2019t matter what you did.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">WHILE THE US Army sought to get good \u201cstats\u201d on what was happening to pass up the chain of command, the Afghan army and police were largely an army only on paper. In northeast Afghanistan, where Platner was a rifle squad leader, he spent most of his time living with Afghan National Police, who were supposed to be performing paramilitary operations as well. The Afghan army in his area was being advised by the French Foreign Legion. He says this was in the Ghorband District not far from Kabul.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">While the US brigade moved around a bit, his role in training Afghan police provided an insight into the failures across Afghanistan at the time.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cWe were pretending that we were preparing them to do this on their own,\u201d recalls Platner. \u201cBut since they were utterly incapable of doing it on their own, we were going on combat patrols and dragging along some Afghan cops to pretend they were doing a mission. So we operated basically as a US rifle company.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">This meant that the \u201cadvise and assist\u201d nature of what the US thought it was doing, or the \u201cby, with and through\u201d approach the US would take later in Iraq after 2014, was largely a myth because the local units wouldn\u2019t lead the way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">It was a \u201cdelusion,\u201d Platner says. \u201cWe had two platoon interpreters.\u201d<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Most of the Afghan security forces came from minority communities such as Uzbeks, Tajiks and Hazzara Shi\u2019ites, and they owed their place in the units to the old Northern Alliance that had resisted the Taliban and which had swept to power with US support in late 2001 and early 2002. While reports say the Afghan army was supposed to be 45% Pashtun \u2013 the majority group in Afghanistan that has also made up the backbone of Taliban fighters \u2013 the reality was that he thinks it never exceeded a few percent Pashtun.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Platner says that in his district, the US company, squad and brigade commanders had their own notions of what a successful deployment meant in terms of their resume, \u201cso they could say they oversaw a battalion that did this many patrols and spent this much on reconstruction and did this to the enemy. So what we were doing was taking orders from the military structure that was to operate as a counter-insurgency structure and engage the enemy and shoe-horn the Afghan component into it.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The result was that the local Afghans who were supposed to be leading operations had no appetite for any combat missions.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cThey didn\u2019t want to do anything, except steal from people,\u201d he says.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">This harsh statement is backed up by his experience dealing with the underpaid police.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cIn the summer of 2011 at the height of the fighting season, the Afghan police I was advising had two magazines per man, and the entire district had one RPG round, one round for their one RPG tube, and they had no gas for their Ford Rangers we had bought them.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">This dismal state of affairs was exacerbated by their paychecks and cash for basic things being stolen by higher-level Afghan commanders. He also says the police would put people in jail to get ransom from local families to raise money.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cThey did that because they weren\u2019t getting paid.\u201d<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">PLATNER DESCRIBES the process at the time as \u201cAfghanistanization,\u201d a term borrowed and adapted from the US experience in Vietnam when the US tried to turn over sectors to the local Vietnamese ARVN forces in preparation for leaving. The concept was to put \u201cAfghans in the lead and weaning them from the American logistic teat.\u201d That meant the US infantry couldn\u2019t give their partner forces ammunition or gas.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cEveryone knew the reason they didn\u2019t have gas or ammo or money is because their leadership was stealing it. All the money came from Department of Defense coffers. There was no tax structure or civil authority outside of Kabul. So all the money was dumped in at the top and siphoned from the highest levels like a kleptocracy and there was nothing left.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">He says that there was an incentive to inflate costs because everyone was making money: development projects would choose the most expensive bid so that those in charge could make it seem they were spending more money. It didn\u2019t matter if anything got built, from wells to roads to schools. What mattered was that officers or heads of areas like what was called RC East (Regional Command-East) could say they had a successful combatant command experience.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cHow do you show you were better than everyone else and make colonel or general and move up the chain of command?\u201d Platner asks rhetorically. You spend more money than your peers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cThe military was incapable of change,\u201d he says. \u201cAmusingly, we were doing the same thing but calling it something else, like VSO [Village Stability Operations].\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The military had become entangled in a culture of corporate middle management, but with no incentives to actually get things right. Unlike in a business, \u201cthe money is not going to shut off. The US military isn\u2019t going to go out of business if they get it wrong.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">If anyone had asked the soldiers on the ground, they would have predicted the collapse this year more than a decade ago. Meanwhile, higher-up officers were tabulating the number of \u201ckey leader engagements [KLEs]\u201d and other rubrics of success.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cIf you sit down with dudes in a village and they say they want a road built and say they will tell you when the Taliban will come and they say they love America, but you know it\u2019s a sham, and no one wants to say they failed and suck at their job, so instead of lying, you choose a metric that is kind of vague that you can reach conclusions from.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The problem was the government never existed, he says. While Afghanistan had buildings labeled \u201cdefense\u201d or \u201ctaxation\u201d departments, in reality it was an empty shell. US Inspector General reports reveal this, Platner says.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cNo one wanted to say anything&#8230;. Everyone was a coward, from executive leadership down to the company level where the cowardice stopped. Everyone above that was a coward. They believed it because they had to, they couldn\u2019t bring themselves to admit that this might not be real.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">In the end, his diagnosis is that the Afghanistan government the US supported can\u2019t be said to have \u201ccollapsed\u201d because it never existed.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">\u201cThe Afghan army wasn\u2019t real. The Afghan Civil Authority was never real. They never collected taxes. There were no courts outside of police robbing people. None of it ever existed&#8230; it was just a big jobs program funded by American money, and the moment it looked like the money would go away, everyone went home.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">With the exception of Kabul, Charikar and a few other places, he paints a picture of an Afghan state that never controlled much beyond a few highways and cities. 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