{"id":9171,"date":"2014-11-19T19:02:14","date_gmt":"2014-11-19T17:02:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.reunion68.se\/?p=9171"},"modified":"2014-11-19T14:48:47","modified_gmt":"2014-11-19T12:48:47","slug":"9171","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.reunion68.se\/?p=9171","title":{"rendered":"Miko\u0142aj Grynberg: W tym miejscu p\u0119k\u0142o"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/tygodnik.onet.pl\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"center alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.reunion68.com\/Biuletyn\/img\/powszechny.png\" alt=\"\" \/><\/a><span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #000080;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong><a style=\"color: #000080; text-decoration: underline;\" href=\"http:\/\/tygodnik.onet.pl\/zmysly\/mikolaj-grynberg-w-tym-miejscu-peklo\/pc0kh\" target=\"_blank\">Miko\u0142aj Grynberg: W tym miejscu p\u0119k\u0142o <\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/h4>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #808080;\"><strong>Katarzyna Kubisiowska<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<hr style=\"height: 15px; background: #d0e6fa; width: 710px;\" \/>\n<div style=\"width: 360px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/ocdn.eu\/images\/pulscms\/MDI7MDQsMSwxNTYsM2FlLDIxMTswNiwzMjAsMWMy\/cd332448f171f59d8fbdee58d3a9c2d5.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/ocdn.eu\/images\/pulscms\/MDI7MDQsMSwxNTYsM2FlLDIxMTswNiwzMjAsMWMy\/cd332448f171f59d8fbdee58d3a9c2d5.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Miko\u0142aj Grynberg<\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #333333;\">W najnowszym numerze \u201eTygodnika Powszechnego\u201d Katarzyna Kubisiowska rozmawia z Miko\u0142aj Grynbergiem, autorem w\u0142a\u015bnie wydanej ksi\u0105\u017cki \u201eOskar\u017cam Auschwitz\u201d. \u201eKiedy te straszne historie zacz\u0119\u0142y do mnie dociera\u0107, pomy\u015bla\u0142em, \u017ce ka\u017cdy doros\u0142y cz\u0142owiek musi w kt\u00f3rym\u015b momencie trafi\u0107 do obozu\u201d \u2013 m\u00f3wi Grynberg.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Ka\u00adta\u00adrzy\u00adna Ku\u00adbi\u00adsiow\u00adska: \u00a0Mi\u00adko\u00ad\u0142aj, czy Ty je\u00adste\u015b szcz\u0119\u00ad\u015bli\u00adwym cz\u0142o\u00adwie\u00adkiem?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Mi\u00adko\u00ad\u0142aj Gryn\u00adberg: Szcz\u0119\u00ad\u015bcia\u00adrzem je\u00adstem, to na pewno: mog\u0119 zaj\u00admo\u00adwa\u0107 si\u0119 tym czym chc\u0119, mam \u017con\u0119, dzie\u00adci, tat\u0119, mia\u00ad\u0142em mam\u0119 i dziad\u00adk\u00f3w. Co nie zna\u00adczy, \u017ce cz\u0119\u00adsto si\u0119 u\u015bmie\u00adcham.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Kie\u00addy\u015b u\u015bmie\u00adcha\u00ad\u0142e\u015b si\u0119 cz\u0119\u00ad\u015bciej?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Kie\u00addy\u015b by\u0142em b\u0142a\u00adznem, wy\u00adg\u0142u\u00adpia\u00ad\u0142em si\u0119, a wszy\u00adscy wok\u00f3\u0142 si\u0119 \u015bmia\u00adli, to by\u0142o ab\u00adso\u00adlut\u00adnie na\u00adtu\u00adral\u00adne.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Smu\u00adtek po\u00adja\u00adwi\u0142 si\u0119 po \u015bmier\u00adci mamy?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Wtedy roz\u00adsy\u00adpa\u0142 mi si\u0119 \u015bwiat i przez lata ci\u0119\u017c\u00adko go by\u0142o po\u00adzbie\u00adra\u0107. Mama zgi\u00adn\u0119\u00ad\u0142a w wy\u00adpad\u00adku sa\u00admo\u00adcho\u00addo\u00adwym w roku 2002. Do jej \u015bmier\u00adci du\u017co prze\u00adby\u00adwa\u00adli\u00ad\u015bmy razem, ga\u00adda\u00adli\u00ad\u015bmy, by\u00adli\u00ad\u015bmy za\u00adprzy\u00adja\u017a\u00adnie\u00adni. W su\u00adte\u00adre\u00adnie na \u017bo\u00adli\u00adbo\u00adrzu wy\u00adnaj\u00admo\u00adwa\u00adli\u00ad\u015bmy pra\u00adcow\u00adni\u0119, mama przy\u00adcho\u00addzi\u00ad\u0142a tam ry\u00adso\u00adwa\u0107 i szy\u0107, zaj\u00admo\u00adwa\u00ad\u0142a si\u0119 pro\u00adjek\u00adto\u00adwa\u00adniem ubra\u0144.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Po jej \u015bmier\u00adci Mi\u00adko\u00ad\u0142aj \u0141o\u00adzi\u0144\u00adski spre\u00adzen\u00adto\u00adwa\u0142 mi ne\u00adga\u00adtyw z jej por\u00adtre\u00adtem. Je\u00adcha\u00adli kie\u00addy\u015b razem po\u00adci\u0105\u00adgiem, Mi\u00adko\u00ad\u0142aj zro\u00adbi\u0142 mamie zdj\u0119\u00adcie. Za\u00adcz\u0105\u00ad\u0142em robi\u0107 od\u00adbit\u00adki i ci\u0105\u00adgle co\u015b by\u0142o nie tak, mama nie wy\u00adgl\u0105\u00adda\u00ad\u0142a na nich jak \u017cywa. Za\u00adwie\u00adsi\u00ad\u0142em ca\u0142\u0105 pra\u00adcow\u00adni\u0119 zdj\u0119\u00adcia\u00admi, jak w fil\u00admie o ja\u00adkim\u015b czu\u00adbie i przez rok tam nie przy\u00adcho\u00addzi\u00ad\u0142em. Potem j\u0105 zli\u00adkwi\u00addo\u00adwa\u00ad\u0142em.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">A potem je\u017a\u00addzi\u00ad\u0142e\u015b po ca\u0142ym \u015bwie\u00adcie i fo\u00adto\u00adgra\u00adfo\u00adwa\u00ad\u0142e\u015b ko\u00adbie\u00adty. Z tego zro\u00addzi\u0142 si\u0119 album \u201eDu\u017co ko\u00adbiet\u201d.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Do\u00adpie\u00adro wtedy uro\u00addzi\u00ad\u0142em si\u0119 jako autor. Wresz\u00adcie po\u00adczu\u00ad\u0142em, \u017ce mam co\u015b do po\u00adwie\u00addze\u00adnia. Wcze\u00ad\u015bnie by\u0142em fo\u00adto\u00adgra\u00adfem re\u00adkla\u00admo\u00adwym i za\u00adra\u00adbia\u00ad\u0142em kup\u0119 kasy. Kiedy za\u00adcz\u0105\u00ad\u0142em robi\u0107 swoje rzezy, na\u00adtych\u00admiast dra\u00adstycz\u00adnie zbied\u00adnia\u00ad\u0142em. Ale czu\u00ad\u0142em si\u0119 au\u00adto\u00adrem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Rok przed \u015bmier\u00adci\u0105 mama m\u00f3\u00adwi\u00ad\u0142a mi, \u017ce si\u0119 mar\u00adtwi, \u017ce nie robi\u0119 tego co bym chcia\u0142. Gdy umar\u00ad\u0142a za\u00adpa\u00add\u0142em si\u0119. Ale to on spo\u00adwo\u00addo\u00adwa\u0142, \u017ce do\u00adko\u00adpa\u00ad\u0142em si\u0119 do rze\u00adczy przed\u00adtem prze\u00adze mnie igno\u00adro\u00adwa\u00adnych, kt\u00f3re by\u0142y cz\u0119\u00ad\u015bci\u0105 pej\u00adza\u00ad\u017cu ro\u00addzin\u00adne\u00adgo.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Cho\u00addzi o hi\u00adsto\u00adrie z prze\u00adsz\u0142o\u00ad\u015bci?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Ta mojej mamy nie na\u00adle\u00ad\u017ca\u00ad\u0142a do spek\u00adta\u00adku\u00adlar\u00adnych. Jej ro\u00addzi\u00adce zo\u00adsta\u00adli de\u00adpor\u00adto\u00adwa\u00adni z Fran\u00adcji \u2013 dzia\u00addek w 1942 r. za udzia\u0142 w ruchu oporu i bycie \u017bydem, a bab\u00adcia \u2013 rok p\u00f3\u017a\u00adniej za to samo. Oby\u00addwo\u00adje tra\u00adfi\u00adli do Au\u00adschwitz. Moj\u0105 trzy\u00adlet\u00adni\u0105 mam\u0119 po\u00adcz\u0105t\u00adko\u00adwo przy\u00adgar\u00adn\u0119\u00ad\u0142a kon\u00adsjer\u017c\u00adka, potem opie\u00adko\u00adwa\u00adli si\u0119 ni\u0105 roz\u00adma\u00adici opo\u00adzy\u00adcjo\u00adni\u00ad\u015bci, w ko\u0144cu tra\u00adfi\u00ad\u0142a do r\u00f3\u017c\u00adnych fran\u00adcu\u00adskich dom\u00f3w dziec\u00adka. By\u0142a te\u017c w jed\u00adnym pro\u00adwa\u00addzo\u00adnym przez wnuka Ka\u00adro\u00adla Mark\u00adsa.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Babci uda\u0142o si\u0119 przej\u015b\u0107 marsz \u015bmier\u00adci. Dzia\u00addek 8 maja 45 roku w Ber\u00adgen Bel\u00adsen zmar\u0142 na tyfus.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"color: #333333;\"><strong>To tylko fragment wywiadu. 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